Mar 27, 2024
This week's Pro Audio Suite episode is a deep dive into Austrian Audio's treasure chest, featuring the OC707, OC818 studio set, CC8, and OC7. Discover the groundbreaking features of these mics and why they might just revolutionize your audio work. Robbo, AP, and Robert share their firsthand experiences, from studio recording and on-the-road versatility to voiceover excellence. It's an unboxing and testing session filled with expert analysis, fun, and a whole lot of audio geekery. Don't miss out on this sonic adventure.
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“When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional.”
Hunter S Thompson
[00:00:00] And welcome to another Pro Audio Suite thanks to
Tribooth. You can see it in the background. Don't forget the code
TRIPAP to get 200 off your purchase. Uh, Today we're going to do an
unboxing right after this. So, George, you've got yourself a new
microphone from Austrian audio Of course, one of our sponsors. Yes,
it's Christmas early, extremely early in this case, [00:01:00]
because I asked for this microphone a while ago and I wasn't sure
if they'd send it to me because it is absolutely not. In the
category of podcasting or voiceover. So I didn't think they were
going to send it to me, but, they did because maybe they see what I
see. And this is what I've got today to show you. And that's the
You OC, not yet. OC 707. So this microphone has a lot in common
with other mics. You guys are going to see from our unboxings. But
this one kind of, to me, is like, I feel like, we should have done
this last in a way, because I feel like it's the best of all the
others, but all of us are going to tell us why their mic is the
best, I think, right? So, OC707 is a small capsule condenser
microphone. much like the pencil mic that we're going to see and
the mic that, Robert's using. But it's just in the way that it's
packaged. It's packaged as a handheld, right? So, why a handheld
[00:02:00] vocal mic for voiceover or podcasting? Well, here's my,
here was my thought. So, wouldn't it be nice to have a mic with a
good internal pop filter? One. it's always there and it's always
with you. Two, That's the unboxing part. Two, wouldn't it be nice
if the mic had a decent amount of shock mounting internally, so the
capsule wouldn't pick up rumble and stuff from wherever it's
mounted? Yeah, sounds good, right? Well, that's the whole idea of a
high quality handheld studio. Well, it's not studio. It's a live.
It's just a handheld yeah. Mm-Hmm. mic, right? This is the whole
idea of a mic like this. You're getting the quality of the capsule
from their smaller diaphragm mics, but housed in a handheld form
factor. So it can handle some handholding, meaning it will not pick
up vibration. So if you mounted this to a mic arm or stuck it on a
table or clamped it to a bed post or whatever it is you [00:03:00]
need to put the mic, you're not going to get much rumble or low
frequency noise, right? Another cool thing about the design of this
mic, look at that crazy head basket. It actually it's like
suspended it's it's sort of similar to my mic here where they have
the capsule there, But the back of it accessible. I think that's
part of their, um, a name for that tech. Yeah, they do have a name
for that design, that design aspect, which I can't recall, But the
idea is they're trying to make sure that there's no coloration that
occurs because of the capsule being enclosed in any way at the
rear. So that's the, the idea that this should give you the best
off axis response, it should give you the smoothest off axis
response. So before I go further and plug it in. Um, the only
feature it has, really, if you call it that, is a switch. It does,
uh, technology, Open Acoustics Technology. yeah, and does have a
switch. The switch does engage a 120 hertz roll [00:04:00] off at
the bottom end. What the slope is, I don't know. It's, I'm guessing
it's probably as gentle, like a 6 dB per octave slope. But that is
what you get on this mic. So without further ado, I'm going to plug
it in, and it made a nice pop. I don't know if you guys heard the
pop, did you? Even with the gain all the way down? So I'm going to
go ahead and pot this up and let's see if you guys are catching it
on your end. One, two, three. Yes, it's definitely coming up. yeah,
And we'll pot down our other one. The OC 18. So now I'm on the OC
707. And, uh, tonally, it's very smooth, with what sounds to me
like a little bit of a mid range, like, mid range, like, eh, eh,
somewhere in the, hank, honk. there's like a little bit of a bump
in the honk frequency. And that's, they did say that's by design,
they actually said it has a little bit of a fuzz. forwardness at
the two to three K range because they feel it [00:05:00] does help
bring a vocal, um, out of the, you know, out of the mud, especially
for live. guitars going on underneath you, that's gonna help. Yep.
Absolutely. So, so if I was going to use this as a stand in for,
uh, any of our other mics, my tendency would probably be to smooth
that frequency out just to my ears and kind of put a little dip to
smooth out that little bit of bump. But other than that, You're
probably talking about like what 2 DB DB or so. And that's, what's
crazy. You don't think two DB is that big a deal, but it's amazing
when you hear, we are so tuned to hear our own voice or really
human voice through a microphone. Right. And it's just, we've heard
it so much. So there's any anomaly in, you know, in the
frequencies, you pick it out really quick, right? But if it was a
bass guitar and you added two DB of a certain frequency, it
wouldn't be so dreadfully obvious. So, That's always interesting
with mics. But anyway, that's the O. C. and whole. have the two
mics set up so you can pot between the two, like go from the
[00:06:00] 818 to the OC 707? I can do that. It'd be interesting to
get like an equal distance and just kind of play around with that.
Before you do that, how does it handle off axis stuff? Like if
you're a bit off axis, does it get a bit lost? Yeah, we can try
that. So, so I'm I'm gripping it, like, kind of like death grip
singer grip and you're not hearing any. OK, if I really squeeze it,
there's a little, if I move my thumb around, go. Yeah. the amount
of handholding you get. But. If you hold it the proper way, as
Steve Jobs would say, the correct way to hold the phone, um, by
the, by the fingers like this, you get very, very minimal, um, I'm
not using any high pass filters. This is right off the mic. So, so
in terms of off axis, if I start speaking mic across the microphone
now, and now I'm speaking at it at about, now I'm about 90 degrees.
Yeah. right? One. And Definitely loses the low end and yeah, and
there's the [00:07:00] rear rejection Notice the rear rejection is
The rear rejection. 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, in your face,
because we 2. Yeah, it has an amazing rear rejection. A bit for it
to sort of sound off axis. yeah, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2. 1, 2, 1, then
all of a sudden the low end really plummeted and it kind of
retained some of the high end for a bit as it so very smooth off
axis. And what does that mean to you as a voiceover actor or
whatever, podcaster? It means that you can move around the
microphone quite a bit. If it's mounted on a stand, for example,
and you want to voice act. And you can move around the microphone a
fair deal. And the only thing that's going to vary much at all is
the volume, right? So as you get further closer, Yeah. it doesn't
sound funky as you go off axis. So, All, all in all, I got to say,
I'm extremely impressed. doesn't seem huge. Am I wrong about that?
You know, if I get in deep, you know, those are, that's where you
can really get that proximity effect [00:08:00] Mm And then back
out to about, Yeah. Okay. So, so It is there. It is about this far
away. 1, 2, 3, 4. So yeah. Excellent sounding handheld mic. Now the
sound, the, the, um, the self noise on the mic on paper is not all
that impressive at 19, I think it's 19. db um, self noise. I can't
hear it But in, in reality, it's like you, yeah. if you have a
heater on, if you have anything running in your environment, a fan,
a ventilator, Anything you are not going to notice that it would
take an absolutely extremely quiet studio. And for reference, the
Sennheiser 416 is 16. So it's only 3 DB, theoretically 3 DB noisier
and it's just not noticeable in any normal environment. So There
you go. sometimes it's about just the sound of the noise. because
if the sound of the noise is smooth, even if it's louder, Yes. than
like some actual like kind Or, well, I mean, yeah, the tone of the
noise, of whatever the white noise [00:09:00] tone is, and it's not
very clean. So, there you go. back on the OC818 now, but that's,
um, that's the OC707. do like, just kind of put them in the same
place and do a quick, like Sure. B. Sure, I will do that. So, we're
on the OC818, and they're very much close in alignment right now,
and then we will cross crossfade over to the OC707, so you can hear
there's a difference in the mid range. end and definitely more high
end Right. sure. forward, less warm, less low end, crossfade back
to the Seven. uh, the, uh, now we're on the OC818. yes. So yeah,
round. of like, absolute purity of tone, the OC818 wins hands down.
But if you want to travel and have something super robust for road
use that you don't have to worry so much about, and if you want to
throw in a nightclub gig while you're out on the road, Bit of
karaoke. this is, this is a good choice. All right. [00:10:00]
Yeah. That's a very cool mic very It is a nice mic. I do. I think
it's basically the same as this bike, And you're going to explain
to us why Uh, because it's the same capsule and the head basket
looks very similar, but not, I have a feeling this head basket's a
little bit bigger probably this one has a little bit more, tighter
polar pattern if anything, possibly, but that's hard to know. Um,
to show the mic clip. capsule. Sorry. I forgot to show my, my clip.
too, which they give you the proper thumbscrew to set the position
and lock it so it doesn't move on you. yeah, Anyway, sorry. sorry.
Robert. Um, but yeah, I I think it's similar head basket, same,
capsule, probably very similar electronics that like it's whatever
the headbasket does and whatever else they do to voice it slightly
differently. I don't think it's even in the voicing as much as it
is in the polar pattern. Cause this is a little bit more of an
instrument mic. So I'd expect it to [00:11:00] have maybe a higher
degree of, um, You know, like a tighter polar pattern, maybe if Mm
hmm. it for drums and things on stage. Um, but really convenient. I
mean, I, I sent you guys the unboxing video. So we needed to see
that, but it is really convenient in the sense that, um, kind of
works in this similar way that a, in an SM seven or other mics work
on a boom arm, so it's kind of not in the way in the same way that
other mics are on the boom, It kind of nicely, gets in the right
spot and doesn't cloud your view of other things. And it has this
little pivot to it, which is pretty convenient, the full range of
motion is from straight ahead yeah, almost full range. It, when,
when you try to go. like, it That's the limit. back up. uh, so
it's, Right. that'll limit some positionings, Yeah. but it is like
front and back. [00:12:00] Okay. I did honestly wish it wouldn't
have, um, just ran into Collided to the body of the mic, Yeah.
Yeah. But besides that, I mean, It's It sounds great. I, I, I like
the voicing of it. whole line. Yeah, I, I, mm hmm. the, the dynamic
version and George, I don't, I think I seen those files, but so
here's a dynamic one, which really just looking at it, the only The
main thing you notice a difference is just. The darker color. It's
kind of an interesting dynamic mic because it gives you these, um,
filters and pads, it's active. So a dynamic mic that needs phantom
power, and it seems to, um, maybe make it easier on the mic preamp.
Um, it hmm. I would say in there with other kind of uh, Hotter
Dynamic mics in like the kind of 421 type range where they kind of
border a little bit more on kind of sounding condenser ish. Here's
your two samples. It's only 11. It's a short sample. Here we
[00:13:00] go. Guess which is which. So the second one sounds like
the dynamic. Mm hmm. Yeah. And, and, and, yeah, what are the
switches on there again? Give me a, rundown of the controls. Yeah.
and then a, Um, high pass, a 3 position high pass filter. Three
position. Oh, cool. Yeah, off being one of them, but here, let me,
let me get you the, hmm. I would say that it'd be 60 and 120 It's
probably going to be the same as yours, Yeah. so, I was curious. a
60 or is it 80? 80 and 120 on the Oh, mm hmm. And then the uh, the
pad is like I said, 10 DB, if it's a gradual slope, I had a,
[00:14:00] at, um, at, um, cutters. We had my labs that had a 400
high pass filter, you 87 I think of 300 or something like that.
They're very high. Yeah, but there it's a They're a long slope.
super, super gradual. Yeah. it's gradual. Now, that's interesting.
So, yeah, I'm wondering if the slopes are set differently on the,
on that instrument mic versus the, the pencil mic, you know, it's,
they're all using the same basic guts, just in different
configurations, They're all in know, same capsule. you know, color
pattern a little bit by the acoustics around it, maybe,
electronics, that might change the noise. Mm the noise hmm. So, you
know, Andrew's mic, I would say, it to also Probably because that
basket is so open probably have a more wider, polar pattern, Maybe
And little bit more open sound, I would think for what Andrew has,
just because it doesn't have the pop filter I mean he does have
that, He's a little foam ball on there, but on [00:15:00] it much,
yeah. andrew, what's, what, what are your impressions of the, uh,
of the, is it CC eight, right? yeah, the CC8, which you also have.
I do. I have two. I, like them. you, uh I put this through its
paces. Okay, that, that is one of the problems. I'll go to the, Let
me He popped it on purpose. of the problems. Is He, no, he was
making a point. Yeah, exactly. I was Wizard is never late. He
always arrives when he means to, right? Yeah, that's right. That's
right. I, I've put this through a lot of tests. I've compared it
with the 41. 6. I put it up against the NTG5. Um, I've done It in
the Tri booth. I've done it in the Porter booth. I've done it in my
booth, used it everywhere. Um, I think Robert, actually, I sent a
file to Robert, uh, last week and Robert's response was listening
to the NTG5, the 41. 6 and the. CC8, that, the CC8 moves a bit
closer to the 41. 6 than the NTG5, thought so. [00:16:00] I think
it's, that's what I'm hearing as well. It didn't quite have that,
has a little bit more truth in the mid range. It doesn't have that,
like kind of. yeah, 416, like thing. that I know it's, like what
people like, but it's also technically what makes it so real.
exactly. But this one, if you look at the frequency response, it's
actually, is, very flat. Yes. and it's got a couple of tiny bumps
in the top end to give it a little bit of cut, but it's a very flat
mic. I know from other people who have played around with this mic,
it takes EQ beautifully. You can really thrash it and it won't let
go. So that that's a really good thing and just shows the quality
of the microphone. On the downside of the mic, As we've already
heard, it does tend to pop, unfortunately, So you've got to be
very, very, careful when you're using this thing that you don't
sort of pop continually. Um, I wanted to try this because I just
[00:17:00] like the form factor of it when you're traveling, that
it could be a really good, mic to chuck in a bag use when you're on
the road because it is. Small, it's pretty Speaking of road, who
makes that shock mount you're using with the mic? Wow. Road, road.
So it does, it does not come with any kind of shock mounting of its
own. it No, it just comes with a normal mic clip, Right. Same,
same, same one is probably, maybe, I think it's probably the same
mic clip that I have. Right. probably, let Yeah. in my And so
that's the, that's the trade off. Right. So mic clips are
interesting because when you first get them and you're trying to
put that mic in there, you're like, man, I don't want to snap this
mic clip, But the plastic is really strong and it feels like you're
putting a lot of pressure in, but not the easiest, like, those
things are exactly smaller than the mics and you gotta like, well,
the Sennheiser my clip was the same way. I remember the four 16
people. I would just think like, is this going to fit? But that's
what, [00:18:00] that's why it doesn't fall out. Yeah. so really.
that's what you get is the clip Yeah. and then the foaming that
that's all that comes with So do you think if you were to travel
with it, you would actually bother to bring along the bigger shock
mount for it? Or would you just use the clip? I'll just use the
clip? Yeah, because I'm not touching anything, nothing, True. fine.
The only other downside was because of having one of these, because
I'm trying to make the road case as small as possible, and Right.
really attractive. Like if I get a, you know, the old NTG5, You can
plug it straight in. in. World's most badass USB mic. Uh That's
what you end up with. But this one is too big. it doesn't Okay. The
chassis is too thick. Yeah, it's too uh huh. What you might be able
to get is a, uh, what would you need? a, um, female to female or
male to female, uh, adapter. Like a little Barrel. yeah. It's an
extender. They call it a [00:19:00] barrel extender? Yeah, And I
bet you that would get you plugged straight in there without a
Yeah. would. yeah, Which is essentially the world's shortest mic
cable. Off to Yes. what it is. Peters or you could just get your
Dremel tool and start filing off and thinning out the back of that
OC eight. worth it. Oh, so worth it. Yeah, that'll work. Making it
a perm, a permanent attachment to the mic port pro and just like
the, well, these work. together. That's the, I guess you could try
to widen that channel in the mic port pro, which, which, which is
going to be Andrew. I don't think he's going to machine the tail
end of his mic. go neither. Yeah. Is you agreed. just pull it
apart. Just solder it in, you know, Yeah, there you go. Like, there
you go yeah, yeah. But anyway, I, I, I, I really like it. I think
it's, um, me, the, the sound of it is, is really good. Um, of you
on it, to be honest. I, It sounds great on that. sounds the way a
small diaphragm condenser should sound, which is really clean, and
really [00:20:00] articulate, and just dead, dead accurate, Yeah,
lack of a better word. use like small diaphragm condensers like
that on stage for opera singers, Mm hmm. In fact, that's an
extremely common use case. You'll often see the ships where they
have the little head Yeah. this very skinny long pole. Yeah. that
goes down to a floor. stock is like 400. Yes. Yes, it is. expensive
mic cable, technically. But yeah. they don't use, uh, they don't
use you know when money is no object. They're not using large
diaphragm mics. They're using I think the Beatles used up on, uh,
the Yeah, on the let it be. Yeah. I Yes. the Beatles ones weren't
they? they were using the AKGs. I'm sure. AKG version of that with
the, Yeah, yeah, it was Well, you know, Austrian Audio is still a
young company. They're not trying to, you know, they're there. You
can tell that they're carefully rolling out iterations of the mics.
You know, they could eventually make a remote capsule version of
[00:21:00] this mic where the capsule is on a cable, you know, and
it runs down a long cable and, you know, for extremely small, you
know, when you're trying to get the capsule in really tight spaces,
or if you want to mount it to a violin or the body of an instrument
or whatever, you know, so there's a much more they could do. much
about, their capsules and they're, and they're less about, you
know, like, I, wonder if they would, I don't see them doing it, but
like Would they do a tube mic? Mm hmm. I don't Who knows? in their
in their thought process. Like, know, we're just trying to provide
very They seem to be looking forward. need a tube for that. You
Yeah, they seem to be kind of looking forward and not looking so
much backward like traditional design. interested in color for the
sake of color. Right. They're like you, you do your color, we'll
give you truth. Which I dig that. Yeah. Maybe, Maybe, they will do
a C12. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? They got the [00:22:00]
capsule. Robbo, did you get anything new yet? Or is this all about
us today? Nah, I got a new toy too, but I mean, you've kind of seen
it before, but I thought I'd unbox it anyway. Because it's All
right. and this is literally, uh, can I say, this is literally an
unboxing. I, I was spoiled. Firstly, can I say, hello to the Aster.
Mm. Mm hello to the arsehole who stole my, um, my Hi X 65s while I
was at my parents place looking after my mum. uh, they kindly
replaced my, uh, my 65s hmm. and gave me a pair of. The 55s. Ooh.
that inch in a quarter inch? sound Oh, do they? Okay Yeah, But what
I, what they did give me was this, let's look at that. yes Now
this, this. literally is an [00:23:00] unboxing, I have to say,
because I haven't had a chance to get to it, but it up. And yeah,
like you say, use it to tie your cables down and stuff. No, I think
I threw that away. Yeah, What were you thinking? I don't know Oh,
look in its own little road case and everything. How's that? yeah,
yeah, You know when they're, you know when they, uh, they're, in a
different price category, when they give you a case, a road case.
yeah, Yeah, I know. It's very Mm hmm. um, so yeah, so look, this
will probably, to be fair, this will probably be making the trip
with me when I have to go into an agency client, who shall not be
named, of mine, who doesn't believe in investing in microphones, so
this will probably be handy because it will probably be coming with
me. [00:24:00] Don't get it stolen from your car. Yeah, it won't be
staying in my car by itself. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah, there we go.
Certificate of quality. Can everyone oh look at that? yep. So that?
was, uh, Oh, this year 30th of the 4th, not individually listened
to and signed off. Yeah. And then polar pilot handbook sticker.
there we yeah, that's cool Some drugs, cool. um, The cable that
goes in the back of it for The The mystery magic weird cable. Yeah.
Now, uh, uh, we were talking about these before, we started We
didn't, we didn't like them, basically. made the point that it
doesn't swivel, which Yes, I hadn't thought about having seen you
guys using, yours, but you're right, the fact that it doesn't
swivel, You can't, you can't do no, but you can't, You can't do
this trick, right? can't rotate the mic in the basket, right? So if
that's something you want to do, you [00:25:00] can't do it with
that clip. I'm using ironically or interestingly, I'm using the
original 414, yeah. 414 clip, yeah, is completely compatible,
interestingly enough. So if you have one of those laying around,
can use it. and, honestly, those, uh, Austrian audio clips are not
cheap. No, I'm, I'm No. I think they're like a hundred bucks. yeah.
But, um, a nice clip, it's just like, it doesn't let you rotate,
and that's the Right. It's well made, it just, yeah, has that one
lack of flexibility. So, I recommend You get the, Triad Orbit It
makes a super awesome pivoting ball head mount. Okay. That makes it
extremely easy to quickly rotate a mic. Well, it's a ball head, so
really, any direction. Um, but, give you, I suppose, Do I, I sound
any different, by the way? How do I You sound warmer, Robert. Do I
I change my mic? Yeah. Uh in defense of Austrian audio, I think I
know why that [00:26:00] shock mount is the way it is. Because if
you look at the OC818 and look at the back where you've got, you
you can either put a, you know, the Bluetooth dongle or the second
Hang on. Here we go. Yes. If it was completely around, you wouldn't
be able to put it in there. Cause I can't use the Rycote on the 818
for that Ah, you That is true. There is a little, Yeah. Okay. mind
my goofy little pop screen, but there is a little opening in the
back right here. that's, that's the reason Right there. give you
that same mic clip for the 18 and the other, I was going to other,
it to be able to rotate it, you do have, I mean, it's not a shock
mount, but you do have option, I guess, yeah. it, Yes, absolutely.
I mean, the bottom line is, that, that is Have we done a lot of
tests of shockmount to not to shockmount or not to shockmount like
in a context of voiceover? don't think there's almost any situation
where you'd know if you're using the shockmount or not. Unless you
bump into [00:27:00] something. a voice act, if you were voice
acting and you were one of those um, and you, let me turn, get off
that. If you're one of those people that sort of, you know, threw
your hands around and did the whole, ah, you know, blah, blah,
blah. And you accidentally. You know, I mean, yeah, okay, It's not
Oh, yeah. but if you bumped it or kicked it with your toe or
something, it might Yeah, I mean, even with a shock mount, if I
bump the arm, Yeah. well, it's hitting the booth too, but yeah, if
I bump the arm, you're definitely going to hear it even with a
shock mount. So, Hmm. Yeah. but, um, it's nice that they give you,
they give you the clip. You have. the option. You have the option.
So I'm really excited about that. I'll, Oh man, are you kidding me?
Austrian audio has hooked us up. I would like to say. Yeah. uh,
firstly, I know they're sponsors and I know we've just scored all
this, but firstly, awesome gear, seriously. my, I was, when my
headphones were stolen from my car, was [00:28:00] devastated
because I'd never used headphones to mix until they sent me those a
while ago. And I've fallen in love with them like it was, Yeah. C
monitor. I sort of, I mix on my main monitors and then mix down in
the crappy little computer speaker that I use. And then I was
putting the 65s on and, and they just become a part of my workflow.
And when they went, I was devastated. So, um, So, so the fact that,
uh, the fact that they've come back and by the way, if you're in
Wyong, New South Wales, and some guy's trying to sell you a pair of
Austrian audios in the pub, voodoo sound. com. au just drop me a
line. Uh, my wife's uncle is actually a bikey. He's a hell's angel.
So I'll Oh, he'll take care of you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
Yeah. He'll get that for you. yeah, yeah. Yeah. I love it. with an
Austrian audio mic, Yeah, the before And after interview. you very
much. Hey, you know what? I totally forgot, Andrew. I forgot to
[00:29:00] play your your CC eight test clip. Should I play that
real quick? Oh yeah, Let's So this is, what is this, Five
different, a few different takes strung together. There's uh, the
first one is the NTG5, second one is the CC8, and the third one is
the 41. 6. Oh, cool. Okay. So now we can hear it in context with
two other venerable mics. Here we go. Oh, all in the Which booth?
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Dubai. Well, that was interesting because they [00:30:00] all did
sound different. NTG5 was hyped. It definitely is Hyped What was
the last one? What was the final one? 6. Wow, the, the NTG5 is like
the 7506s of microphones. It's like, just like low end, high end,
like You know, I, I guess they did that because they wanted to
sound totally different from the NTG3. not that it doesn't sound
nice, but it is not, it's, I don't think it's flat, No, no, it's
not flat. The CC8 is the flat mic. This is this, this is flattest
and one right here, right? Yeah, Yeah, that's, that's what a flat,
proper, accurate microphone sounds like. the others are not that
like, edgy kind of like lost some low end And it definitely had
that edginess that yeah, It works on commercials i don't think
you're doing your next album with it Let me hear something. you
know it just has that like [00:31:00] little snarl to it that I,
yeah, yeah, the like the 416. I I, no but no but you can see how
it. would slice through a mix more than the other one like yeah,
yeah, sure. But I guess, I mean, I, I, I, I, until I've got this
sucker, I've been on the NTG5. maybe it's because I've got used to
it, but I just listened to that then and went, wow, that's Right.
Right. it's compared to the ntg5 it's very thin. Yeah, that's
incredible. comcom I mean, I liked hearing the CC 8 in the, in the,
in the, context of those two shotgun mics. Cause it just brings
draws attention to the fact that those shotgun mics are not
accurate. They're not flat. They have a very distinct tone and that
tone can be a detriment or it can be exactly what the client
wanted. So Yeah. can get lucky and a lot of people are used to that
sound. I mean, we're programmed to hear that [00:32:00] 416, 416,
um, on human voice. So we've gotten very used to that EQ curve, you
know. Hmm. So we're just out of interest, out of the three mics in
that shootout, Which one did you prefer? Which one did you find
more pleasing? And which one do you think would be perfect for
chucking in a road case and taking with you? well, I mean, I'm not
mixing it so I could use any of them. Um, my, just straight out of
the mic sound, which just sounds the most commercial ready to go on
the air, probably the Road, is my opinion. I would agree. wow. I
would agree. Can I just say, No. ago, I would have said 416 any day
of the week, but I'm hearing that now, it's changed my mind. I
think the road has a lot of low end that once you're done mixing,
you're going to pitch it. And mean, you're going to cut that out
anyway? Yeah. it though, in the first place. No, I know it's just
the 416 gives you that just like [00:33:00] push the fader up and
you're done kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. mix and it's not really,
when you isolate it, you're like, eugh. But if I take this it just
like, Kind of pokes through and it's just does that thing that I
think that's what people are going for because I don't think you
can accuse the 416 of many things like it is not accurate and it is
not pretty sounding Right. it just has this like, it's going to sit
in a commercial sounding mix where you want that voice to be heard,
going to get heard with less effort than the other mics, little,
for you voiceover for you specifically, Andrew, I would go NTG5 for
your shotgun. And I would say the 818 for your large diaphragm.
They'd be my two picks. Okay. I've, I just want to do one last
experiment with this microphone because I we know it's flat. But
[00:34:00] if I hit the 4k button on the SSL, has given it more of
a, uh, Crunch. Mm hmm. It is like instant 416. almost. Yeah, it's
given it that top bump for sure. It's just emphasizing what is
there and pulling it that's right. what I'm hearing. Yep. Yeah,
interesting. that does something similar from, um, who does it
slate digital Mm hmm. air, Mm hmm. you've talked about that one a
lot. my. go to for that sort of thing. Absolutely. Just winding it
in so it goes, if anyone cares, it goes, on the voice bus and it
goes on the final mix bus For Oh, wow. That's where I use it. Mm
say, I would say the the CC 8 is the most flexible. if it was a
sound and you didn't know, like, you're going to do a hi hat or a
voice or this or that, I yeah, CC 8's got the most natural
soundstage more of a [00:35:00] desert island mic. Yeah. You could
use that CC 8 on literally any instrument. And you'd be fine with
Just a little EQ Just call me Human human voice included. I mean,
Yep. yeah. yeah. Just gotta be very careful of plosives, Mm hmm
discovered. Don't blow yourself up Indeed. I will try not to. Uh,
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